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Inviting all women, in particular my Black sisters, to take up space and just be. An invitation to talk about what we think about, but rarely speak about. Conversations about spirituality, relationships, the “ism’s,” sex, mental wellbeing, secrets and feelings that we stuffed. We will celebrate! You will laugh, cry, be pissed, disagree, and begin to count yourself in where you’ve been counted out. Lisa Lackey, therapist, consultant and chief conversation starter and her guests will challenge you to keep the conversation going.

Think of Insideout Conversations as brunch with your main girls right in the middle of the week.

May 18, 2022

As time passes, the initial coronavirus lockdown sinks further and further into the past. It’s tempting to try to forget about it and start fresh.

But we all have individual and collective traumas to continue processing as well as things we’ve learned about ourselves that we can integrate into our new lives moving forward. Those who do this healing work will have better skills for self-care when new challenges come along, and we’ll feel a deeper sense of peace.

This episode includes some reflections on what I’ve personally learned about myself and what I’m trying to do differently now, and it ends with an inspirational poem that illustrates this kind of self-discovery and personal growth. 


Introduction and reflection

  • :41 - 5:41 Reflect with me on two years of lockdown and isolation 
  • 5:45 - 6:40 Think about it: what did you learn about yourself?

Insights from my pandemic experience

  • 6:40 My anxiety drives controlling behaviors and puts others on edge
  • 7:17 My pet peeves about others often reflect my own unwanted behaviors
  • 7:45 Busy-ness is addictive
  • 8:24 Accommodating others is exhausting, but being creative makes me feel present and alive
  • 9:48 Setting boundaries is hard, but the freedom is so worth it
  • I may be a loner, but I still need my sister friends

Moving forward

  • Making smaller changes is more sustainable and makes for better results
  • My new perspective on setting boundaries
  • Inspirational poem on learning and growing after bad experiences: “There’s a Hole in My Sidewalk”
  • Poem reflection and takeaways: our expectations for personal growth versus the actual healing process

If this conversation has brought you to an insight, a story, a sense of relief, please email me at and let me know.

Take care,


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