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Deep conversations about life, relationships, and recovery. In this personal storytelling podcast, licensed professional clinician, transformational speaker, and conversation starter, Lisa Lackey, shows you how to take the front seat in your life, to step out where you’ve been hesitant, and to move forward in being all that you and others have told you that you can’t be.

All you have to do is be willing to show up in your own life the best you can, and come on in to join the conversation.

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Mar 31, 2021

We're talking trauma, embodiment, attachment theory -- how we become separated from ourselves and others and how to reintegrate safely.

Three years ago, I went to this workshop in a suburb outside of Chicago. And I already knew what the deal was going to be. I was going to be, probably, the only Black person there, or one of two, because that's just how it is my field. And it was true.

As I was walking up the steps to go to this room, my body started to defend. And by that, I mean, my shoulders became tight. My hips became tight. I had my serious face on because I needed to prepare as usual.

I walked into this room and, you know, everybody was kinda milling around and the presenter was at the front and she was talking to some people.

And as I was getting ready to sit down, I looked up and she was in the front of the room and she smiled from her heart through her eyes with her energy.

It couldn't have been more than a second. And my body began to relax because I knew that I was safe just by that transaction.

And so this woman that I am speaking of is Deirdre Fay. Deirdre Fay, MSW has decades of experience exploring the intersection of trauma, attachment, yoga, and meditation. She teaches “a radically positive approach to healing trauma”.

Deirdre founded the Becoming Safely Embodied skills groups, the basis for this book, and is the author of Attachment-Based Yoga & Meditation for Trauma Recovery and co-author of Attachment Disturbances for Adults, as well as the co-author of chapters in Neurobiological Treatments of Traumatic Dissociation.

To learn more about Deirdre visit and to order her book Becoming Safely Embodied,

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