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Deep conversations about life, relationships, and recovery. In this personal storytelling podcast, licensed professional clinician, transformational speaker, and conversation starter, Lisa Lackey, shows you how to take the front seat in your life, to step out where you’ve been hesitant, and to move forward in being all that you and others have told you that you can’t be.

All you have to do is be willing to show up in your own life the best you can, and come on in to join the conversation.

Learn more about Lisa and her clinical practice at Insideout Living.

Mar 24, 2021

Ava Thompson Greenwell has taught broadcast writing, reporting and producing classes at Medill/Northwestern University since 1993.  In addition to her teaching duties, she has held several administrative posts including associate dean for curriculum, director of the Teaching Television Program, co-curator for the nationally recognized Ida B. Wells award and director of the McCormick Tribune Fellows Program.  Currently, she serves as co-director of the South Africa Journalism Residency Program.

We talk about “Mandela in Chicago,” the documentary film Ava produced and directed about the city’s anti-apartheid movement; her new book Ladies Leading: The Black Women Who Control Television News; and the story of an experience her son had with the police in the town where they live, that traumatized the whole family -- and what they decided to do about it.

To learn more about any of Ava's projects and her academic life coaching sessions, reach out, visit or


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