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Deep conversations about life, relationships, and recovery. In this personal storytelling podcast, licensed professional clinician, transformational speaker, and conversation starter, Lisa Lackey, shows you how to take the front seat in your life, to step out where you’ve been hesitant, and to move forward in being all that you and others have told you that you can’t be.

All you have to do is be willing to show up in your own life the best you can, and come on in to join the conversation.

Learn more about Lisa and her clinical practice at Insideout Living.

Feb 17, 2021

Our third episode in a series I have affectionately come to know as "BWB" -- Black Woman Burnout.

And what we are going to be talking about today is just how much we, as Black women, repress our emotional selves -- how we repress those things that we feel afraid to express or don't have time to express or don't give ourselves permission to express.

And so the title of this particular episode is "Sometimes you just want to holla!"

Today, I have my sister with me and her name is Ramona Outlaw. Ramona first of all, is a retired high school principal in the Chicago Public School system.

Even as late as today, even though she's retired, they're still calling her and she's still answering. She's been an educator for over 25 years and one of her greatest loves in life is traveling.  What she says about education and teaching is that she did not choose teaching -- teaching chose her and kept choosing her for over 26 years. 


If this conversation has brought you to an insight, a story, a sense of relief, please email me at with the subject line "Black Woman Burnout."

Take care,



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