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Inviting all women, in particular my Black sisters, to take up space and just be. An invitation to talk about what we think about, but rarely speak about. Conversations about spirituality, relationships, the “ism’s,” sex, mental wellbeing, secrets and feelings that we stuffed. We will celebrate! You will laugh, cry, be pissed, disagree, and begin to count yourself in where you’ve been counted out. Lisa Lackey, therapist, consultant and chief conversation starter and her guests will challenge you to keep the conversation going.

Think of Insideout Conversations as brunch with your main girls right in the middle of the week.

Nov 19, 2020

We are living in this time where we are at a crossroads. We can decide to be lukewarm or take a stand, but in-between is no longer an option.

So as I think about racism and black women, I can't help but think about how we view our bodies, both historically and currently, as it relates to what information has tried to be downloaded into our self-esteem for years and years and years and years and years.

Our physical bodies and our spiritual bodies have been impacted by trauma. The assumption is that black women are strong and so therefore "she can take it." The nicknames that are given to our body parts, the objectification of our curvy figures and the cruel jokes about our butts that stick out are all "just in fun" because certainly black women can't be hurt. "She can take it" because she's strong -- strong, beyond human strength.

We have to ask is it an assumption, or is it an excuse or outlandish treatment?

In this episode, I’m starting a story of a black woman, a queen, Sarah 'Saartjie’ Baartman, born in 1789, who was trafficked, brutally abused, and whose remains were put on display in a museum for decades to come.

It is not easy to hear. I share this with you because I want us to help Sarah Baartman to rest in peace by returning to ourselves without apology, and to carry ourselves as the phenomenal women we are.

I invite you to come on in and join the conversation. If this story resonates with you, email me

I want to hear from those who are struggling and living outside of their identity and into the names that have been given that are not true.

I want to hear how you are coming back to YOUR identity, or maybe you already have and can share what that path has been.

In the subject line, I want you to put 'Warrior Queen." And then if you're able to put the little crown symbol in that subject line.

I look forward to continuing the conversation with you.

Peace and Blessings,



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