Insideout Conversations

Deep conversations about life, relationships, and recovery. In this personal storytelling podcast, licensed professional clinician, transformational speaker, and conversation starter, Lisa Lackey, shows you how to take the front seat in your life, to step out where you’ve been hesitant, and to move forward in being all that you and others have told you that you can’t be.

All you have to do is be willing to show up in your own life the best you can, and come on in to join the conversation.

Learn more about Lisa and her clinical practice at Insideout Living.

034 - We Never Know Where Our Journey Will Take Us : Reunion with Laurice Bell

Aug 12, 2020

Today I'm talking with producer and director Laurice Bell. We go way back to our roots in Evanston, IL. We begin this conversation with the word "Sawubana", a Zulu greeting for "we see you" to talk about being in community at these times.

Laurice's podcast is Evanston Rules. Find it at

033 - Challenging Times for Helping Professionals Too with Dr. Julie Ann Gray

Aug 8, 2020

I catch up with my dear friend, Dr. Julie Ann Gray, about what it's like to be a clinician during these times of shelter-in-place and the amplification of racism in our country.

Julie's book Diva Five Alive: Letters to My Sisters is available now.

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032 - A Conversation About Racism

Jul 29, 2020

I had the honor to join trauma expert, author and clinician, Dierdre Fay on her YouTube channel where she invited me to talk about the traumatic impact of racism.

In this episode, you will hear some of my own experiences, some of the experiences of family members, some history, some hopes, and some challenges.

While I...

031 - Conversations With Some of My White Friends

Jul 7, 2020

I must look.

“To avoid pain is to avoid growth and challenge and to avoid looking is to lose an opportunity for empathy and to avoid looking is also to avoid being authentic in my emotional responses to racism.” ~Lisa Lackey

A teachable moment...

“While my intentions were good & my heart was in the right place. I...

030 - The Connection Between Healing Racism and Empathy

Jun 30, 2020

Insideout Conversations has a renewed purpose! My husband and business partner Steve Lackey and I want to really focus the conversations around healing and healing through empathy. And for right now, we're really looking at empathy as it relates to racism and all the things that are going on around it. So we're hoping...